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November 09, 2011

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Bill Perkins

I like your last dozen or so paragraphs about what people might be able to do to help them to survive this economic cycle.

I have an in-law who has taught welding classes in a high school vo-tech program for 25 years. We've spent many hours discussing the push for everyone to go to college resulting in few skilled machinists, welders, mechanics to take those jobs that are available. He has about a 98% employment rate for anyone successfully completing his two-year part time program, even in this economy.

Seems to me the reason the wealthy and businesses spend so much money trying to influence politicians is because the government is so pervasively involved in every aspect of business and our personal lives. Much of lobbying is actually defensive in nature, trying to educate politicians of the often dire impact of apparently populist policy. We need to stop government subsidies of businesses, so-called crony capitalism, and reform taxes so that it is fair and simple across the board for everyone. That's an idealistic thought, particularly in light of current political stalemate, but it seems to me to be the only thing that can save this country from stagnation and collapse.

I don't disagree that progress, as we generally define it in the Western world, often comes in the form of automation, resulting in fewer jobs. Also, we have experienced a cultural trade-off for the last 40 years plus of exchanging a higher standard of living for the middle class that has made us less competitive internationally resulting in manufacturing jobs departing for many labor intensive operations. But what are the alternatives? We can't go back to family farms and barter. There are too many folks for such inefficient production.

I think we supposedly reached our 7 billionth world citizen recently--pretty remarkable given the past predictions of dire consequences of population numbers billions smaller. There is remarkable opportunity for those who are smart and agile enough to compete for the demands of emerging middle classes the world over. We need an agile, lean, competitive government focused on what it should be doing to promote agile, lean business who can employ our people and maintain, no improve, our standard of living.

Roger W. Norman

As always, you can I disagree.

I really didn't want to talk about the loss of jobs that won't be coming back, but I've always suggested that learning new skills was a simple necessity of life.

However, if we get into the governmental aspect of this, the movement from public/private partnerships to large scale lobbies working only to garner a particular company or a specific industry dispensation over and above what others would receive seems to me a manipulation of the system.

The 20 thousand pages of tax code isn't due to government placing restrictions on business, but rather lobbyist writing new laws that simply go through the motions via "friends" in congress and they add up to the inequality of wealth I have talked about a number of times.

But what I wanted people to recognize is that they need not simply sit down and wait, because there is not one entity out there that is willing to help. There is no demand, thus no jobs. All the jobs today are getting the job done. Without jobs people only have the ability to take their adversity to the extreme and create their own help.

And I've never said different. In fact, I've written about doing things on the community level that allows a "lower level" economy to flourish and grow, and even to the point that might include micro lending or other avenues of funding. But the point has always been to say "there are no more jobs" and one has to take their own well being upon themselves.

How we got here you and I may disagree with, but facts are facts, and the tally is in.

I'd rather see unemployment insurance continue, but I'd like to see that include some national program which includes training and job sharing rather than just having Republicans claiming that out of work people are lazy. That is not productive. If our elected leaders are being negative about the people they have helped leave behind, then who has hope?

We have forgotten many things about being American in the past thirty years as we've been told lies that only help those in power in the near term. Show me someone with long term hope for Americans and I'll show you someone that knows where we came from and how we got here.

Not pointing fingers, but real knowledge of the situation.

Farmers don't have the time to pay attention to all the goings one. I do. So I write what I see going on and try to express it so that if a person only has the time to read my writings, then they'll get some sense of what has been going on.

I spent 3 days trying to write Marching to Globalization, and really I haven't finished yet, so there may be a number of ancillary articles.

But the slap in the face is that anyone suggesting they can create jobs is ignorant that Americans simply have no new jobs to do. But they can use their skills and they can increase their skill level and they now have the time. Ten years from now is way too late to start.

Roger

Roger W. Norman

Geez, can't even edit my own comments.

You sneaked one by me Bill.

"Also, we have experienced a cultural trade-off for the last 40 years plus of exchanging a higher standard of living for the middle class that has made us less competitive internationally resulting in manufacturing jobs departing for many labor intensive operations."

Well, as always, I call you on this. The facts are different than you represent. For at least 30 years the middle wage earners have been under assault with stagnating wages and added costs, and I'm sorry but there's not much documentation that suggests different.

I offer the "now legal" marketing of criminal shyster-ism. Pay day loans. Now Capitalism assumes that one knows what they are signing when they sign the dotted line, but the facts are that we have way too many uneducated people to allow the willful manipulation of people unable to read a 20 page legal document.

As Tom Waits said, the large print giveth what the small print taketh away.

So should government step in and create an environment where the people won't be prayed upon, or do you believe that evolution works between one generation and the other?

If the people aren't educated, they are marks for the educated, and the educated have all the power of the law, whilst the immediate NEED of the people places them at a disadvantage.

The difference is in the way the legal paper is written. Back in the early days of credit cards, the legal paper was a legal page, both sides. Today your bill has more paper, and the form you sign can be a postcard. Without knowing the terms, because the information suggests the terms are limited by the application you fill out.

This is a specifically designed system to leave you uninformed and liable for charges they wish to apply.

Then only last week Bank of America decided not to charge $5 per debit card per month, with they exception of their big clients. Again, shifting revenues to the least likely to be able to afford it and giving others a pass.

The overdraft protection option itself has been shown to be a rip-off specifically tied to small depositors with manipulation of purchases so that larger withdrawals might overdraft their account with $30 charges, when if the timeline were followed there would be no overcharge at all.

No, we are not weaker because of a strong American middle wage earner, but we are weaker because we no longer have one.

Roger

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Globalization does affect the number of day work week. Foreign companies might prefer 10-hour,6-day work week. They also pay over time. This has changed the old pattern of 8-hour 5 -day work week in the host countries completely. Workers love to work long to add their income. The companies love to let them work long, because part-time workers will not match with skills and efficiency.

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